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Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 16:04
by Azraeth
Kaspar wrote: Maybe we should put more emphasis on the fun/entertainment rather than the heavy if people aren't in a place to pursue it or it's stirring too much tension.
This is exactly right. Politics tend to happen naturally when characters have an opportunity to interact. I wouldn't suggest plotting out politics OOC because aside from alliance making, it frankly doesn't work. Which isn't to say that people should be completely opaque with their intentions or their plots. For sure, giving people a heads up and being able to discuss major moves like wars, or attacks on NPC groups or things like that should be plotted.

But big picture stuff just doesn't work. The way to create politics is to inspire interaction IC through fun, entertainment, and participating in activities, gatherings, events, etc.

Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 17:04
by Myk
I'm not personally in the habit of plotting and strategising every single move for my characters (just take a look at Myk, if you don't believe me, he's as random as all hell!). However, what I do think is important that people realise, on an OOC level, that there are other players out there that share the intentions of their characters.

It's hard knowing who's on your wave length, who's active in the city, and what their plans are without... well... asking or seeing them publically expressing these things. All this thread is about is bringing people together so they can realise, "Well ****, I'm not alone!"

I'm not trying to start a Blood vs Path debate, actually. It was just a comment I've been hearing that makes me think, "Well maybe I'm wasting my time if no one gives a ****."

Believe what you want, but, at the end of the day, I'm just trying to help the community. If that community don't want help, then... see ya!

Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 23:43
by Trahir Trahison
I'd be hugely interested in starting up a Pro-Masq faction that uses more than just grid kills to try and discredit, wipe out and otherwise make evidence of the supernatural go away.

Trahir is extremely pro-secrecy, but at the same time there are at least two humans out there who are not thralls who know him by name and sight as a vampire. Even the most zealous have exceptions. That being said it's been made clear that "the Masq ~will~ fail" and I'm not going to invest resources into setting up a home base, not going to invest time into figuring out ways to slow it's decay, gathering people to a useless cause, wasting their time and mine, and not going to bother giving a **** about it when the result is pre-determined.

Major buzz kill.

Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 23:44
by Pi dArtois
Azraeth wrote: As for politics, the Dragomir are more than happy to make alliances either formal or informal with anyone who is interested. We'll be returning to our regularly scheduled monthly parties and informal weekly (or more often) gatherings here starting next week. Anyone is welcome to attend those. Dragomir players are VERY community oriented, not oriented towards building a specific single faction or bloodline (even if our characters may have a lot of family pride).

So if anyone is interested, just give a shout out. Or join one of our gatherings. Or jump into an open thread if we've got some rolling. Or we can jump into yours. Or we can go to your gatherings or...whatever >.> Seriously. Super easy. We are the political/RP sluts of the game. Ngl.

That being said, the next 2 months (well month and a half now), are REALLY tight for me because of school. Starting August, that will lessen up some. September I will have significantly more time to devote to everything.

So apologies if anything I've said has been too brief/not in depth enough. <3!
Over the next weeks I'm meant to be plotting how Pi is going to return to HR, but I've been throwing Michael into random things. I have issues with live chat RP, only because I rarely schedule my life around game things, but my free time is incidental to being around during that time. And times are usually not great for my side of the world. But if I'm around and available when you put a Dragomir thing on, I'll swing Michael in. :)

I'm not sure where this will all end up, Michael as a part of ARES but I figure if I throw down enough little strings, one day Pi will get to yank on them, which I guess is a big part of doing anything political. First you build your character into something that has focus, ideals and beliefs. Then you slowly entwine them with other characters who feel, do, are the same way. And before you know it, you have a movement... a common ground and goal.

I love leaving potentials dangling around for Pi to pick up and pull on later and she's been around the city long enough that she has weird connections all over the place. Tenuous, but certainly exists.

Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 23:52
by Pi dArtois
Trahir Trahison wrote:I'm not going to invest resources into setting up a home base, not going to invest time into figuring out ways to slow it's decay, gathering people to a useless cause, wasting their time and mine, and not going to bother giving a **** about it when the result is pre-determined.

Major buzz kill.
Here is how I look at things that are predetermined. The sun will rise, and the moon will wane. Those things are predetermined but I don't stop living because I can't control the outcome of night or day. I am only one vote, in a sea of votes that elect a government, but I don't give up, because the outcome is beyond my control. So when I look at RP environments I can't change (and it is one of the things I've always enjoyed about Path, was its canon) - then I just ask... well, and what would Pi do, how would she react?

Although a story teller has stated that the masq is too far gone right now for any other outcome but for it to fall, then I'd be thinking as a person who played a pro-masq character. Well isn't that just a juicy piece of awesome to sink my writing teeth into. What sort of doomsday, prepare for the end of the world type B Plan would I be hatching. Who would I need to detach myself from in order not to get caught up in the 'Ohh look I'm vampire' party that's about to happen?

My excitement when it comes to character stories, and they're the most fun to write, are the adversities. The things that make them cry, or scream and howl. I've had a very hard time with Pi lately, cause she's been so damn... happy and settled. She was in an amazingly great space with herself prior to me ripping her out of HR but the adversity is what I like writing her best. Which is probably why I'm rather eager to have her come back. Cause just by being gone she's created a personal **** storm with her family, but then there is all this juicy potential change afoot.

It's sorta awesome. :D Now, if only I could get Michael thrown into a few RPs while I'm off for three weeks so I can get back into the rhythm of writing again. >.>

Re: Politics

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 23:54
by Pi dArtois
Kaspar wrote:Some of us are putting things into play and having discussions.
I think those discussions are hugely important to have, not to plot the whole RP out, but also to ruminate on potentials. Cause I've noticed once I start character plotting or just talking and hashing out ideas, it tends to snowball into better story arcs or offshoots of other things that could also be cool.

Re: Politics

Posted: 19 Jun 2016, 02:46
by Judah Marck
Pi dArtois wrote:
Kaspar wrote:Some of us are putting things into play and having discussions.
I think those discussions are hugely important to have, not to plot the whole RP out, but also to ruminate on potentials. Cause I've noticed once I start character plotting or just talking and hashing out ideas, it tends to snowball into better story arcs or offshoots of other things that could also be cool.
Well, yes, I never plot out entire RP's etc because... Well, I frankly wouldn't have the patience :P. More so to get a vague idea going, to bounce things back and forth with likeminded people.

Re: Politics

Posted: 19 Jun 2016, 03:10
by Trahir Trahison
Pi dArtois wrote:

It's sorta awesome. :D Now, if only I could get Michael thrown into a few RPs while I'm off for three weeks so I can get back into the rhythm of writing again. >.>
Pretty sure Robert Pratt offered Rp. Human-vampire faction IC. From what I know Jenny is a prolific writer. Most are hard pressed to keep up. :D

Re: Politics

Posted: 19 Jun 2016, 03:15
by Pi dArtois
Yeah, thanks Chris. I think there are quite a few open threads I can poke his head into, and the auctions to keep him (and me) busy.

Re: Politics

Posted: 19 Jun 2016, 03:17
by Trahir Trahison
Always trying to help break up the cliques and facilitate a non-OOC decision-relkated role-playing-game where the ooc stops and the 'role' of the character takes over from there. :D

Helpful me!