Exposing humans to vampire society.

[Velveteen]

Does it? Haha...well I did not know that either. >.>

[Mordechai]

That being said, I totally am behind the system being more complex as it applies to vampiric secrecy, because I think it is a bit dumbed down as is. You kill a cop and that means your character /had/ to have used vampiric powers or strength? Why isn't there a roll in there for them to just have walked up behind the guy and pulled the trigger?

Of course, the problem then is that it would become more complicated for new players, so striking a balance between RP/Gameplay/complexity is really important. I generally think the violation system on the whole should be looked at. But I think what would be /really/ cool is if there were a faction out there, a kind of masquerade cleaning service that had the ability to mop up vampire messes before they ever went public, or even after they went public so that even when someone gets a violation - those violations can be removed through some form of team effort.

Like a hacker breaking into a system, combined with someone with high charisma or speechcraft doing some kind of mission, combined with a ritualist doing something to remove a violation from someone's record.

in rp there is, and it is an official business i believe, its called black cox, and is owned by digo. on grid there is o organized effort, but i know that i for 1, imminently contact the hackers i know, and start hacking byseld

[Ursula Wolfe]

My PB Human kills cops daily... So killing Cops/Gangsters should really depend on how they were killed in terms of secrecy.

[Velveteen]

When it comes to killing cops it isnt so much about the how as it is the huge investigation that the offence would bring about which the vampire community don't want or need....I think. >.>

[Faithfallen (DELETED 5831)]

What Sher said. Which I can actually understand from a roleplayer's perspective. >.<

[Blake]

Sorcerers
This one is a little trickier. As sorcerers they're clearly aware of the supernatural. They kinda have to be. If they're into the ritual side of things, they're also aware of the fae, so a logical follow on from that would be that they're also aware of what the fae hate - vampires. But not all of them are going to be doing rituals, potentially, so to assume that they all know about vampires would be a bit premature. That being said, sorcerers do have the Dark Theurgy power, the description of which states:

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Using one of your physical weapons, attack any vampire no matter where they are. Cannot cause critical hits


So it's a safe bet, essentially, that they know about the existence of vampires. Or that power would be a little confusing for them. In short:

Exposing them to vampire society/the supernatural in general should not be a violation of vampiric secrecy.

Just to avoid confusion, Dark Theurgy is a power that is unique to Humans that dual classed as Paladin and Sorcerer. It is, potentially, viable to RP a sorcerer with no knowledge of the undead. None of their base powers are based on vampires or the undead so it IS feasible even though the Wiki states that Paladins receive their tattoos from Sorcerers. Perhaps there are just some sorcerers though that aren't involved with the undead both by circumstance and choice. It would essentially be up to the writer.

There are so many ways to run with Paladins, Sorcerers, Blood Thieves and Pure Bloods I don't think it would precisely be all that kind to say "You are this so you know this automatically." However, I do agree that there could be a bit more complexity added to the whole affair.

[Alexandrea]

But I think what would be /really/ cool is if there were a faction out there, a kind of masquerade cleaning service that had the ability to mop up vampire messes before they ever went public, or even after they went public so that even when someone gets a violation - those violations can be removed through some form of team effort.

Like a hacker breaking into a system, combined with someone with high charisma or speechcraft doing some kind of mission, combined with a ritualist doing something to remove a violation from someone's record.

in rp there is, and it is an official business i believe, its called black cox, and is owned by digo. on grid there is o organized effort, but i know that i for 1, imminently contact the hackers i know, and start hacking byseld

The purpose of this thread is to list vampire-owned services in Harper Rock that may be beneficial to the vampire community.

I am sure some of these businesses have been advertised elsewhere, but it won't hurt to remind us all of what's available. Maybe putting all of this information in one place will help us to establish connections that we haven't seen before.

This list does not need to be exclusive to for-profit businesses... we can add in services provided by individual vampires as well.

I will maintain this list to the best of my ability as information is given to me.


Black Box (Wendigo) (subdivision of Groom Biomedical) -- provides cleanup services of evidence (including bodies), no questions asked. Located in Watchtower Market.

~snipped~

[Azraeth]

When it comes to killing cops it isnt so much about the how as it is the huge investigation that the offence would bring about which the vampire community don't want or need....I think. >.>

See, I'd put the corpse in Gangland Slums.

<.< Criminal activity is high there anyway, open and shut case.

[Azraeth]

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I'm referring to a dedicated faction, with the ability to see legitimate results from a gameplay standpoint. Evidence hacks are cool and all, but having ritualists be able to do something, or even being able to find ways to make violations fall off a character would be really cool. The problem is that the grid mechanics do not support that which is why, I believe, there is no faction in place for it.

[Ursula Wolfe]

When it comes to killing cops it isnt so much about the how as it is the huge investigation that the offence would bring about which the vampire community don't want or need....I think. >.>

See, I'd put the corpse in Gangland Slums.

<.< Criminal activity is high there anyway, open and shut case.

That's where Isy does all her cop killing *snicker*