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[Elijah Cole (DELETED 5419)]

Hello there,

Just quite curious what happened. Now, I know I don't log into this account every day. And someone mentioned to me that accounts are deleted after three months of non-use.

Had it really been three months that this account wasn't used? Is there a way to look into that? Surely... I have such great disbelief. Three months!?

Could someone be so kind (you know, the kind with all the power) to let me know what I did wrong so I don't cause a ripple of panic and terror again when a friend finds that their playmate's been axed (and really hasn't!)?!

And it isn't that I couldn't reregister (obviously)! It's just the principle of the matter... Had it really been that long!?

[Zelda (DELETED 4403)]

Has not been three months.

XD

Perhaps this might then be relocated to bugs?

[PoeticPuppy]

Inactivity is calculated by the last time you logged in on the grid, not the forum. The length of inactivity required for deletion also depends on the character's level and race/path, (since pure humans are harder to level, they have different restrictions placed upon them), and so may not be 3 months. Also if an account has been deleted, canon wise they are generally considered to be dead and so shouldn't be recreated. If you have any further questions please feel free to PM me.

[Phoenix]

Isn't it kind of harsh to tell someone that they can't recreate a character that was deleted because life circumstances didn't permit them to log in for a few months? It's not like dead characters can't come back (unless they were human).

[Elijah Cole (DELETED 5419)]

A PM was sent to you, PoeticPuppy.

It does to address Phoenix's point (even though I sent it prior to seeing her post). I did recreate the character. Elijah Cole is not really grid-based, as I've said in the PM.

This isn't really a great way to retain new players. Granted, I have a main account I utilize more. If I did not have this main account, I probably would have shrugged my shoulders and left the game. If logging into the forum for a roleplaying based character isn't factored in, then why have that option?

My logic must be skewed somewhere. Someone, please show me the light!

[Robert Pratt]

It's a grid based role-playing game where the world you're RP'ing in and about is centered around the grid. If you don't level on the grid, don't gain powers on the grid, don't know how the grid works, don't take part in some of the things happening on the grid, etc etc - then you won't be able to RP any of those things on the forum. Your character reflects your RP and your RP reflects your character. They're both intrinsically linked.

[Mooncalf]

My logic must be skewed somewhere. Someone, please show me the light!

No need to be sarcastic.

We are updating it soon so that if you go inactive on grid, you can't post roleplay. This is to ensure that your character can be attacked for things they do in roleplay, and keeps things based on stats and in game. Roleplay characters aren't expected to level up or even fight on grid, but their roleplay is based on their stats (though not always dogmatically on their in game actions, as others seem to think is the case).

As for not being allowed to recreate a deleted character, me and Natasha will talk it over. I believe that if you sire under the same person again then there's not really any harm done, but Natasha might be thinking about something I've forgotten, so we'll discuss that privately.

[Phoenix]

Elijah is human, David, and I don't think he/she was being sarcastic. More self-deprecating/tongue-in-cheek.

I think the point there is that the forum and grid are linked. You can have an RP-based character, but that character is a reflection of the character you have on the grid. That doesn't matter so much for humans, because humans are just weak and average, and if that's how you choose to play Elijah, then that's totally cool (I tip my hat, even). It's a bit different for vampires.

In order for your character to grow in strength/traits/powers, they need to do so on the grid. But if you don't want a human to be ridiculously overpowered, then I don't see why you need to log into the grid unless you want to have them turned, so there should be something that checks forum logins before deleting.

ttly got ninja'd, but posting anyway.

[Elijah Cole (DELETED 5419)]

This I do understand. One has to have a centered knowledge base of the 'world' that they are playing in to effectively play the character. I like to think, to a point, even though I am new; that I have that knowledge. In truth, I don't care for grids at all. I don't care for the game part of most any grid-game (no offense to the creators).

Recently, I engaged this particular character in the tutorial. It was certainly interesting. And yes, I did see that it was a task to complete being to level the character. Well, my character is human. What if I don't want to level that character? What if I just want to let him walk around, collecting wrist watches and cigarettes and be a bum all day and not let him acknowledge that he lives in a Vampire ridden city with sewers and Zombies?


Mooncalf,

I am sarcastic. Please don't be too offended by it. It is just a part of who I am.

I think that if you offer a role-play option and not a gaming option, then it should not be linked to grid play. So, in essence, you are telling me that I will need to log into the grid and move my character around just to participate in the roleplaying of the forums.

Is that correct?

This character was not a Vampire. He is a human. There is no sire to factor into this equation. I never bothered to do much grid play, because quite frankly - I didn't think I had to. So, perhaps there should be a warning, a label, an -explicit- clarification on the screen that one has to choose game versus role playing.

Or... Did I miss that somewhere too?


I recreated this character because I never chose to 'kill' him off. Less that perspective too, is wrong, according to PoeticPuppy.

[Mooncalf]

I am sarcastic. Please don't be too offended by it. It is just a part of who I am.

Sarcasm is generally rude, and rudeness is against the rules.

I think that if you offer a role-play option and not a gaming option, then it should not be linked to grid play. So, in essence, you are telling me that I will need to log into the grid and move my character around just to participate in the roleplaying of the forums.

Is that correct?

Yes. You need to be visible on the grid (not in vacay mode), because roleplaying with a character that you have no option to attack if they piss you off (other than make-believe fighting through roleplay) isn't how the game works. There needs to be in-game consequences (and by extension roleplay consequences) to a character's actions. Path is built around this fundamental principle.

This character was not a Vampire. He is a human. There is no sire to factor into this equation. I never bothered to do much grid play, because quite frankly - I didn't think I had to. So, perhaps there should be a warning, a label, an -explicit- clarification on the screen that one has to choose game versus role playing.

Or... Did I miss that somewhere too?

I know he's a human. I was speaking generally about re-created deleted characters (characters deleted by yourself or due to inactivity). Humans don't have to worry about finding the same sire, obviously.

You do not have to play on the grid, exactly. You just need to be active on the grid, so merely logging into the grid once every few days will enable you to continue roleplaying. We haven't said that anywhere yet because it's not yet something we'd programmed. The only consequence right at this moment of not logging into the grid is that inactive characters get deleted after 3 months.

I understand and respect that you disagree with some or all of this, but this is how Path works.