Buying a fadeportal

[Bjorn]

1.) I'm trying to buy a fadeportal and am not being successful in my purchase. I'm not certain if I'm misunderstanding what public buildings are... I would like to set the fadeportal that leads to the inside of Sanctuary (within the lobby), but it won't allow me to. I was under the impression that it was a public building, but I'm now wondering: is there a difference between public buildings and public player owned buildings? [ FYI: I used coordinates 6 , 9 Sanctuary ]

2.) If you place a fadeportal in a place you own, and eventually sell it (an apartment), the fadeportal, does it remain with the sale? Is it that permanent a thing?

3.) Theoretically, if you are setting the fadeportal to land within a private building you own elsewhere, and sell the location it is in / make it's location a public space, would people be able to use it? Or would they get the mysterious force prevents you from entering blah blah message if attempted? I know that tomes are a thing (and the reason why I'm not making any major decisions is because Bjorn cannot make tomes as of yet, but are fadeportals used as well? Or is that a baad idea?)

THANKS!

[Alexandrea]

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eta and yes

[Alexandrea]

Actually I think with the drop off point player owned public areas ARE possible. Or s/b. But the answer to number one remains a yes as there ARE differences between public bldgs and player owned public bldgs.

However I do not believe the area you tried for IS open to the public. I think the sanctuary is restricted to under a certain level.

[Bjorn]

Actually I think with the drop off point player owned public areas ARE possible. Or s/b. But the answer to number one remains a yes as there ARE differences between public bldgs and player owned public bldgs.

Such as?

However I do not believe the area you tried for IS open to the public. I think the sanctuary is restricted to under a certain level.

Yet, he lives there. Crosses there often because of d'Artois territory... So I don't understand why he wouldn't be able to create a fadeportal to it, considering he has used both fadeportals at Lancaster's and within d'Artois home to get within the sanctuary.

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[Doc]

Sanctuary is owned by Pi.. which means it is not a public building. And that is why you cant place a tome drop there.

A public building is a transit, bank, a shop. Something that cannot be owned by a player.

The reason Bjorn has used the portals in Lancasters and within DArtois, is because Pi also has ownership of those, or did at one time. Meaning she placed all the portals, Bjorn has been using.

Does that make sense?

[Bjorn]

Does that make sense?

Yeah! Thanks.

[Pi dArtois]

To try and answer your questions first;

1. Pi owns Sanctuary, as Doc's player said. :) So it's public, but only because I chose it to be that way, and because the apartments I had David attach need it to be public, but the building itself is owned by Pi. And that is the main difference to public buildings, like a game owned pub etc and a red square owned by a player.

2. If you sell the apartment then the portal remains active (unless you have David manually move it? - I'm not sure what he does there but I believe you'll have to ask him).

3. Barring OOC intervention by game admins, that portal remains active. So yes, if you place it in a private building, selling it means, that portal will continue to be active into the apartment someone else now owns (unless you get David to move it?)

That all being said. That's my understanding of portals, unless David has changed anything.

Circling back to the Sanctuary, I could place a portal for Bjorn if you'd like? I wouldn't suggest you make one from Sanctuary to a private location cause that's not very secure, but that's your choice. What you do, is you create the portal (buy it) for the location you want it to go to. Then you hand the portal over to the owner of the building and they can place the tile for you.

:) And I'm happy to place if you'd like a portal from Sanctuary to somewhere public? Just a warning though. Portals are pretty permanent, unless you suck up to David to pretty please move it should things change. Pi can't pick it back up and give it back to you.

[Alexandrea]

I *think* the idea was for the fade portal to be in his pad and it to go to the Sanctuary. Not the other way around. Maybe? lol

If that is the case than only Pi can buy and set the destination to the sanctuary on the fade portal, then she would need to pass it to Bjorn to set down in his place. Which is problematic now that we can not pass karma if I am right.

[Bjorn]

I *think* the idea was for the fade portal to be in his pad and it to go to the Sanctuary. Not the other way around. Maybe?

Yes, exactly. I wanted to have a fade portal from Bjorn's lair to a spot within the Sanctuary (recreate the portal that's in the den for the training room). I'm not allowed to set those coordinates however, which I suppose, is explained by the difference between privately owned lairs that are public, and public places that can't be player owned, like both Doc and Pi have pointed out.

I wonder, then, if he cannot set the fade portal to coordinates inside Sanctuary, would he be able to set it for the front step [world 22 , 24]?

Barring OOC intervention by game admins, that portal remains active. So yes, if you place it in a private building, selling it means, that portal will continue to be active into the apartment someone else now owns (unless you get David to move it?)

What I'm confused about is that people need to be invited into private lairs (alternatively, someone uses shadow power). Does having a fade-portal lead straight into a private lair bypass the necessity for a invite? So someone who isn't part of the faction / bloodline / invite list gets to mosey over into your lair if they get access to that fadeportal? Is there's nothing stopping them from being able to get into the building? Do they get beamed up to the front door outside rather than inside?

[Mordechai]

i believe there is, or was, public/private options on fades at one time tho i do not know for sure