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That was just contradicting yourself in your own paragraph … Its still restrictive terribly so … and its telling people how to RP … Yes that's what Cannon is for but damn you guys are getting so you are almost telling people how to wipe their own asses .

Sorry if that simile is offensive but that's how many are seeing it do you see how folks are flocking to rp lately ive been seeing crickets how about you ?


Ill shut up now cause apparently im still a liar and don't know what im talking about or what I see . Ill stick to my own little world.

That's how you guys like it Opinions don't matter unless they agree with you .

This thread's been around since April and you decide now to bring up issues you have with an idea that is being discussed. I'm not sure what you're going for and the idea of the thread is to discuss the ideas, but you are sounding a bit antagonistic.

And there's been more active roleplaying that I can keep up with reading. Some of it''s been awesome.

as I said ill shut up and keep to my own little world you can have it no need to keep on apparently this isn't the place for me no longer since what I like to write is shuned and limited and any discussion of it seems to be shut down immediately

Mortll wrote:as I said ill shut up and keep to my own little world you can have it no need to keep on apparently this isn't the place for me no longer since what I like to write is shuned and limited and any discussion of it seems to be shut down immediately

who shut you down? :) I apologize if it was me but to be fair you've been a touch 'provocative'. <3 ;)

Nothing here is written in stone, it's all still open to being discussed. And that includes you as well!

I actually agree with you and have been discussing with other players about some sort of 'Grandfather Clause' of some kind, most likely based on RRP level. Something to allow those who already had been rp'ing some rit or another to not be fussed about the changes. I'll put up a link to the suggestion, once it's all worked out.

It is something worth discussing, I agree.

I also agree with Ally in that no one's been shut down in this thread thus far. The way it's been approached, however, it comes across like an abrasive argument rather than a helpful debate and discussion.

These things can be discussed civilly and I think you'll find more people open to it if it weren't so abrasive.

Personally my ritualist has been playing within the rituals that already exist, and he'd love something new to play with, which was why this idea excited me. Your post, however much it read like an attack, alerted me to the fact that there are some characters who've been magically inclined all their lives and that yes, it might seem a bit restrictive to them. No one's saying that what they've been writing thus far is wrong, otherwise they'd have already been called on it.

If the writers of those characters came forward and suggested the things their characters have already been capable of, David could include it in the canon. It's about keeping the canon in check so we don't go overboard with what our characters are capable of. If there are others who dislike this idea because it restricts their characters they ought to come forward and explain why. I'm sure David will be open to suggestion and he's not doing this with the intention of nerfing anyone.

Though I'm pretty sure by re-reading what Josh said, nothing is actually changing. No one will have to change the way they write their characters, it's just the demi-fae specific rituals that there will be more to choose from. It's expanding rather than restricting?

When I saw this thread, I did sort of think that it was a bit restrictive in the fact that they wanted Demi-fae to be the main element of the RP rituals. That said, as a person who plays a ritualist, one who was magically inclined before she was turned or even within the city limits, I still rp her as doing spells both pagan and voodoo, I still play her wraith as helping her be a connection to the voodoo aspect of things. I just had to learn to be a bit more creative in how I RPed Ursa. So when I joined this thread, I left the Demi-fae area blank so that if david or josh chose mine they could choose which fae better suited those spells.

However, I do think it would be a nice thing to add to RP-Powers (for vampires (though I play two humans and don't remember any rp powers about witchcraft)) that allow for those who were magically inclined. You could call it "Arcane Bloodline" but till that happens, having points in the occult will have to do.

I think this is the one Josh might be referring to?

Arcanist - You can`t do any real magic, but you know how to perform certain (demifae unrelated) rituals and spells which can have slight effects. - 8000

I don't really think it's restrictive, but as it's been said, the guys aren't going to strictly nerf something like magic given there is some of a relative in real life regarding rituals. Demi-fae specifically, however, is canon based and would be something that might need to be tweaked over time.

Sweet...


ETA: though I wish it didn't have that first bit, it does make it sound like anything else isn't real, and as a practicing pagan, magic in any form is real. They could keep the part about it being non-Demi-fae because they would be and the slight effect because I understand that Demi-fae are far more powerful. Also I wish they'd allow vampires to have that power as well >.>.

Posts not related to the topic (specifically the ones complaining about the community) have been split off as complaints about individuals or groups are prohibited (as there is a non-moderated venue for that). If the relevant parties (unnamed) would like to be added to the CRF to discuss, just shoot me a PM.