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Alexandrea wrote:

When the images for the cemetery in the QZ buggered off, David (or Nat?) placed grass tiles in there. So I'm sure that could be done again for any other huge eye sores that could pop up.

I'd actually volunteer to do it, tbh, if David doesn't have the time and its being done when I'm working on the weekends.

That sounds like a really ineffective risk management plan.

I mean, a third party (players) have paid for and developed amazing grid tiles for his game, which a) make it look awesome, and b) +1 the playing experience of his consumers.

It feels to me as a business owner It feels like a logical risk management to host and hold those images to minimize the risk of losing them, which has the outcome of making the grid look ****, then creating more work by replacing said tiles with generic tiles (suggested fix).

Anyway, interesting discussion.

There isn't a reason why these players still couldn't continue to host their tiles on free photo sites, with free accounts. I still have various apartment tiles on my imgur that I've had for years, and they haven't been removed or tampered with.

Some have pictures that date back six-seven years, so I cannot see the ineffectiveness of that option.

With the other potential risks of hosting photos on this site, I would think the best option would be to continue to host off site. If it were to take from David's time to better his game with gameplay and story play, as well as cause his site to lag to where us, as the consumer, found it difficult to play the game, it would be better to leave well enough alone. As a player, while I do like the aesthetics of the grid, if I had to trade beauty for gameplay? I'd do it in a heartbeat, but with the free options that have been offered for us off-site, that shouldn't be an issue.

Pi dArtois wrote:That sounds like a really ineffective risk management plan.

I mean, a third party (players) have paid for and developed amazing grid tiles for his game, which a) make it look awesome, and b) +1 the playing experience of his consumers.

It feels to me as a business owner It feels like a logical risk management to host and hold those images to minimize the risk of losing them, which has the outcome of making the grid look ****, then creating more work by replacing said tiles with generic tiles (suggested fix).

Anyway, interesting discussion.

It would depend on the business. Not knowing what kind of business you own, I can't make comparisons. I can only relate from my own experiences. And in my experience, the best part of having your own business is that you are your own boss. And that means doing what you think is best for your investment.

So if David agrees with you I am sure he'll do it. But if he does agree to host images I hope he charges for it. Because he should, imo.

Because (going back to it's a business) the more money a business brings in, the more time gets to put into the business. (usually, lol)

It always comes back to time. How much time would it take and even if he has that time to spare, how much more time will it take the code to run for the game?

Why can't path have its own photo account, like on imgur and have a mod account or whatever that can replace the images. Wraiths are awesome for that sort of thing. Even have a special account for it or something so the mods don't have to waste their own wraith energy.

Kira wrote:Why can't path have its own photo account, like on imgur and have a mod account or whatever that can replace the images. Wraiths are awesome for that sort of thing. Even have a special account for it or something so the mods don't have to waste their own wraith energy.

I love that idea, so long as there isn't just one account with access.

With just one or even with two sometimes things don't get updated. (*cough*map*cough*>.<) I think having the existing mods all have access, as well as David, would be great.

Alexandrea wrote: ...

The root cause of this issue, is the fact there is no facility in this game to host tile images, which means the game owner has no control over a large section of the 'look and feel' of this game. And at any time, that look and feel can be taken down by 3rd parties he has no control over.

Either way. There is a free option. So that's good.
It doesn't change the fact that if I choose not to change my photoBucket account, and if any red square area that is public facing stays as they're currently looking, it will (and has) negatively impacted game experience.

Pi dArtois wrote: It doesn't change the fact that if I choose not to change my photoBucket account...it will (and has) negatively impacted game experience.

I've never had a problem or lost a link with http://tinypic.com.

It's also 100% free and there's no reason to lose your photobucket account!

Simply download the images you want to host from PB, upload them individually to TP, and never have to worry about links again.

Pi dArtois wrote:

Alexandrea wrote: ...

The root cause of this issue, is the fact there is no facility in this game to host tile images, which means the game owner has no control over a large section of the 'look and feel' of this game. And at any time, that look and feel can be taken down by 3rd parties he has no control over.

Either way. There is a free option. So that's good.
It doesn't change the fact that if I choose not to change my photoBucket account, and if any red square area that is public facing stays as they're currently looking, it will (and has) negatively impacted game experience.

I think this is a really good point. I agree that anything which causes lag on the site is a bad thing, but gaming is inherently an aesthetic experience. Even with free third party options, those might just be stop gaps. If Photobucket can become money driven, then there's nothing to say that other hosting sites wouldn't do that.

I would personally really like to see David's perspective on this, because it's a bit of a juggling act. He might also have ideas as to how to address the potential lag issues. If there's nothing he can do about it, then I guess people will have to sort of make due, but I don't see why there can't be a 'best of both worlds' option until he vetoes it.

Yeah. I agree. Other sites may increase their prices, and I know I've paid rl money for some decor. I was able to quickly save one building I paid cash for, the others...no.I've gone back to pb and I get that nasty image they supply about third party hosting. So I'm sure those are lost.