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Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:25
by Alexandrea
Amalea wrote:I don't think there's a slider? The Crownet page has a Vampire-human relationship blurb which should change when the milestones are reached.
Booo I was afraid that was the story. :(

I was hoping to see a new slider and a link to a page that outlines all the ways to move it in one direction or the other.

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:31
by Azraeth
What Amalea said. The for and against peace tags relate to the vampire-human relations. Chapter 6 is entirely over, with all consequences in play. The only exception to that is the cure itself, and what the person who got it ends up using it for. But for all intents and purposes, Chapter 6 is over.

The human-vampire relations are similar to secrecy in that it will take multiple chapters to impact them either for or against. In the past, impact threads were supposed to be used to make changes to secrecy and human-vampire relations, but people rarely submitted them. The for and against peace tags are basically like a way to automatically make RP impact RP.

As RP effects the human-vampire relations, it'll change the status displayed on CrowNet, and I'm perfectly happy to post blurbs and updates relating to those when it ticks over in one direction or the other.

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:32
by Elizabeth
Utilizing the update from chapter 6 where you could automatically influence the chapter by using "[for the cure]" / "[against the cure]" tags, we're introducing the same concept, but on a grander scale.

You can now use the Story Impact: [AGAINST PEACE] or Story Impact: [FOR PEACE] buttons (found on the section for BBcodes when writing a new post) to influence the overall relationship between human and vampire kind. You can also type [AGAINST PEACE] or [FOR PEACE] without using the designated button, if you prefer.

There will also be similar buttons added during future chapters, to make it easy for people to influence the chapter.

Posting these tags on any roleplay post (in a roleplay area where you earn RPP) will improve or worsen the tensions by 3 points per 500 words. To give you an idea of how slowly this will progress, there are 5000 points on either side of this invisible scale, and different attitudes (as seen on a computer terminal) appear every 1000 points for or against. So it will take a very long time indeed to influence the overall relationship between humans and vampires on any large scale.
There is a slider, but I'm guessing the 1k hasn't been reached on either side yet. Which is fine, I guess I didn't realize how the points actually 'worked' but if I'm reading that right, it's every 1000 points where things will be changed, good or bad. With a potential of 5k on either side?

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Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:37
by Alexandrea
Azraeth wrote: The human-vampire relations are similar to secrecy in that it will take multiple chapters to impact them either for or against. In the past, impact threads were supposed to be used to make changes to secrecy and human-vampire relations, but people rarely submitted them. The for and against peace tags are basically like a way to automatically make RP impact RP.

As RP effects the human-vampire relations, it'll change the status displayed on CrowNet, and I'm perfectly happy to post blurbs and updates relating to those when it ticks over in one direction or the other.

So now what about grid actions. Uploading evidence will affect the human-vampire relationship slider, right? So then deleting evidence should also affect it in the other direction. Correct? Do any others of the notoriety scale/slider overlap at all? And what of the killing of non-human beasties?


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And yes please and thank you on those updates! :) <3

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:41
by Azraeth
Elizabeth wrote:There is a slider, but I'm guessing the 1k hasn't been reached on either side yet. Which is fine, I guess I didn't realize how the points actually 'worked' but if I'm reading that right, it's every 1000 points where things will be changed, good or bad. With a potential of 5k on either side?
That's correct! The slider is invisible, and the only visible part of it is on the crownet page.

This part:
Human-Vampire relationship is currently uneasy peace.
It's 3 points for every 500 words of RP submitted either for or against. That means you need a total of 166,667(ish) words of RP to move the slider enough to visibly change the status.

There may also be some grid related things which minorly impact the slider in the future.

Chapters are, of course, going to potentially majorly change the slider/status. Though David is trying to maintain RP being the most impactful means of changing the slider/status.

Edited because I'm a derp. <3

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:44
by Azraeth
So now what about grid actions. Uploading evidence will affect the human-vampire relationship slider, right? So then deleting evidence should also affect it in the other direction. Correct? Do any others of the notoriety scale/slider overlap at all? And what of the killing of non-human beasties?


eta
And yes please and thank you on those updates! :) <3
At the moment, I don't believe there are grid actions related to the human-vampire relations, though that may change in the future. David would know better than me about that though.

The human-vampire relations status impacts the notoriety system in that it makes notoriety carry heavier consequences, but I don't believe they're related other than that, though again, Davidi would need to confirm that.

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:46
by Elizabeth
It's one point per 500? WHere does the 3 points per 500 come in then?

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Posting these tags on any roleplay post (in a roleplay area where you earn RPP) will improve or worsen the tensions by 3 points per 500 words.

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 22:59
by Azraeth
Yeah, it's 3...my bad. LOL That's 166,667 or so words to move the slider enough to change a status. :|

Totally misread that.

/edits original post

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 23:00
by Alexandrea
Azraeth wrote:
So now what about grid actions. Uploading evidence will affect the human-vampire relationship slider, right? So then deleting evidence should also affect it in the other direction. Correct? Do any others of the notoriety scale/slider overlap at all? And what of the killing of non-human beasties?


eta
And yes please and thank you on those updates! :) <3
At the moment, I don't believe there are grid actions related to the human-vampire relations, though that may change in the future. David would know better than me about that though.

The human-vampire relations status impacts the notoriety system in that it makes notoriety carry heavier consequences, but I don't believe they're related other than that, though again, Davidi would need to confirm that.

I hated to do it but I had to know for sure. :|

+ You are currently in node 9_9_files
+ System alert is at: green.
+ You have 48 actions remaining.
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+ File uploaded to the internet.
MISSION COMPLETE! You uploaded the evidence to humans. ((This will raise the city alert level. You also gained 46 experience points.))

Re: Chapter Questions

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 23:17
by Azraeth
I'm not sure if the old evidence hacks impact human-vampire relations the way they did city alert/secrecy, but if they do, that's a good catch and David will have to change that. Or just entirely disable evidence hacks, I guess.