Re: Questions on chapter 8 consequences
Posted: 09 Jan 2020, 00:18
Just poking here to say I'll be replying to this properly as soon as I can. I've seen it, just need time to sit down and get out a response! <3
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Azraeth wrote:Just poking here to say I'll be replying to this properly as soon as I can. I've seen it, just need time to sit down and get out a response! <3
With something similar to the subdermal microchip injector (click the links below for visuals):Sullivan wrote: Q1. How are vamps being chipped?
Yes. Known vampires are being tracked and shipped back, though if a vampire has evaded chipping, or has evasive means of getting around or out of the city, it would be much harder to track them.Q1a. Are they being catalogued when they are moving in and out of the city?
Legally speaking - yes. Though whether or not a vampire complies with the law is another story.Q1b. Do they need to register as a vamp and be chipped?
Yes.Q1c. If found on the street, can a vamp be chipped by force?
Almost certainly.Q2. Does the city expect resistance/hostility from vamps as a result of these measures?
I'll leave that to be discovered in terms of story. Presumably yes though, considering the streets are filled with military etc.Q2a. How are they prepared to deal with violent attacks?
Vampires aren't protected as a minority race in Canada. I'm sure the measures the government is using are being reported on in other countries, but vampires existing is a relatively new thing in terms of global knowledge. A lot of countries (especially those far from the States) may not even believe in vampires. Others likely don't have a universal consensus on if vampires qualify as a minority race, as a lot of people are likely to view them as parasitic fiends (and the like).Q2b. Would the country face any negative press from the world due to its treatment of a minority race?
All of this makes a lot of sense, and would make for some really good storytelling, I think.Dominique wrote:I am curious as to how this wouldn’t affect businesses owned. Even those ran by humans. I would think a huge hit would be felt by all human and vampire alike. The flow of patrons would certainly dwindle down, employees leaving and harder yet to find for hire. The shops would find it harder to interact with reasonable suppliers so prices would go up, product demand higher and perhaps shortages? Rationing begins even at slight levels. The vampiric community certainly wouldn’t be partying or celebrating in general publicly. Any with the famous role play power likely are first tagged/identified and are harassed more so as well as the richest vamps. Hoarding begins and is investigated. Most powerful hunted or focused on? Human mercenary form groups from neighboring USA to take matters into their own hands as well as other countries? Cleanse Canada thoughts bond world minds and thoughts?
Sullivan wrote:You went from 0 to 100 so fast with that nuke.
I do think we have some time to work out some of the details before we press that button though. Dominique's questions show that the act of tagging vamps has a ripple effect on local economy and politics which transcends to wider trade implications and world affairs.
I do also think that we're in a situation of being written into a corner where something drastic has to happen to recover the story or it'll get boring, or loose its hook. That's usually when the DM comes in and tells us that God has decided that we've been terrible actors in her play and she's resetting the board, or there's a great dragon unleashed that kills all the players and you start over. Campaign closed.
I'm still new here, so you will all know better than me what is best about path and what you want out of it. I'm here to write great stories with great people and I can do that whatever shape the story of the game takes.
The story of Path has, for the past few years, been one of very slow decline for vampires. As I said above, there's still time for that to turn around, but everything that's happened has resulted from choices people have made in storytelling. Admittedly, David and I haven't always optimized the way people can interact with the storytelling components of the game, but we've struggled with finding ways to balance the gameplay and story in such a way that the story can evolve naturally.Odin wrote:I could see this happening, which would be a bit easier to incorporate into the RP than the Game (new towns/map, plus all the money and time used to purchase, build up and design businesses and lairs would have been wasted).Myk wrote:Which ultimately results in a cleansing... A nuclear bomb style... Our Vampires go into hiding... They re-emeege elsewhere and start over with a new masquerade...
Does anyone feel this may not be encouraging to new players, who may wish to join a Vampire Board, but find that with the new turn of events, their hands may be tied somewhat for role playing? That they may not wish to join a board where vampires are being micro-chipped and the government will keep up with any and all movements?
As extreme as these measures sound, there is information recently leaked which suggests the original draft of the bill was far more severe. Originally, the desire was to divest vampires of all physical belongings, wealth and status, to tear down the buildings in the Quarantine Zone and surrounding areas, create tenements, and force all vampires to live essentially on only a few blocks of land, with rigid control over who could get in or get out.
Is this the next possible step for Path with an upcoming Chapter? Serious question, reflecting on my earlier comment, "all the money and time used to purchase, build up and design businesses and lairs would have been wasted."
and This.Sullivan wrote:I do think we have some time to work out some of the details before we press that button though. Dominique's questions show that the act of tagging vamps has a ripple effect on local economy and politics which transcends to wider trade implications and world affairs.
I do also think that we're in a situation of being written into a corner where something drastic has to happen to recover the story or it'll get boring, or loose its hook.
I think that's a fair concern - so no offense taken. To me, that says the story needs to change and there are a variety (a large variety) of ways that could happen.Myk wrote:Yes, yes, I appreciate my response was a bit dramatic, but I prefer to think of the end game. I am a details person, but not for the risk of not seeing the woods through the trees.
For me, it's important to understand where we are headed as a writing community as we do have that responsibility of making the story actually playable for everyone. If we can't get new players involved, then all that money spent on the grid is for naught at any rate because Path will be no more.
I kinda jokingly proposed the nuke because the community response, when I last performed a survey, was that the best time in Path was during the masquerade (that and Levi thought everyone in HR deserves to die by nuclear holocaust because he was sulking). Thus, it made sense to me that if the Humans did aspire for such an assault on Vampires, they could be convinced of its success if all the Vampires moved elsewhere and reinstated the Masquerade.
I appreciate that this may annoy those that have paid money for properties, but could this not be rectified in some manner? Perhaps those who come forward can request new buildings/etc. be set up free of charge in the new city. The coding may be a pain in the backside, but if done smartly, might just take renaming and reshaping of objects.
But, yes... In the meanwhile, we do have a **** storm on our hands. I wouldn't say this particular storyline would put off newbies from joining more or less than any other, in my opinion. The only obstacle would be the lack of clarity and activity on the boards. Generally speaking, when people join a board and see that it hasn't had posts in months, they have every right to assume the place is empty and leave. Think about how long you spend on a website that doesn't meet your needs before you leave... 5 seconds? The same applies here.
I've been in Marketing for 5 years and Product Management for 2, so I hope to hell that I would be given some kind of credit when I talk about audience movement here. Lol
I could spend £100 a month on marketing Path, but it wouldn't mean anything if the product couldn't sell and retain its customers. It's like selling cheese to the lactose intolerant... >.<
I apologise if that sounds blunt and I really mean no offence. I'm just hoping that my straight talking makes sense and does what I hope!
That's definitely, definitely a possibility, yeah.Flynn wrote:
Same vein, would we see an influx of paladins in the area as a sort of "guard" against the undead that are meant to be under lock and key?