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Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 02:47
by Alexandrea
Amalea wrote:Can confirm that. Amalea never used to miss more than 1-2 Hildrs every couple days, since Team battles she's lucky if she can kill one a day.

Also seeing issues on other characters that can't kill the same creatures that they've been consistently killing before the update (Ancient Zombies, Mooncalf, Feral Vampires, both types of Disciples).
Also confirming the above. And debug messages in full battle readouts;
Wolffyn VS Transhuman Wendigo
The transhuman wendigo waited just long enough for Wolffyn`s concentration to waver, and then stepped out of cover, firing a spread of bullets as he backtracked to the next wall.
Wolffyn`s leg buckled as a bullet pierced it!
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
the transhuman wendigo sensed movement at the very last second and ducked asside as the physical shadows swiped at him.
Wolffyn stepped out of cover, stared down the gun sight, and fired multiple shots at the transhuman wendigo.
The transhuman wendigo was knocked backwards as a bullet hit him in the chest, narrowly missing his heart!
The transhuman wendigo charged.
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
the transhuman wendigo sensed movement at the very last second and ducked asside as the physical shadows swiped at him.
the transhuman wendigo summoned a curse against Wolffyn.
But the power failed.
The transhuman wendigo let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at his opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
the transhuman wendigo`s blade cut deep into Wolffyn`s stomach!
the transhuman wendigo summoned a curse against Wolffyn.
But the power failed.
Debug: switch 2
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
It materialised out of the shade and formed into black blades of darkness. Without a sound, it skewered the transhuman wendigo through the stomach.
Wolffyn attempted to put some distance between them, backtracking quickly.
The transhuman wendigo pulled back his arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
the transhuman wendigo`s blade cut deep into Wolffyn`s stomach!
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
the transhuman wendigo sensed movement at the very last second and ducked asside as the physical shadows swiped at him.
With a rising knee, Wolffyn jumped towards her enemy, attempting to bring him down with a mid-air scissor kick.
Some blows landed, but caused no lasting damage.
Wolffyn stepped in and grabbed the transhuman wendigo by the neck, ready to pulverize her enemy with her free hand.
The transhuman wendigo`s skull cracked under the force of Wolffyn`s assault!
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
It materialised out of the shade and formed into black blades of darkness. Without a sound, it skewered the transhuman wendigo through the stomach.
Debug: switch 1
The transhuman wendigo jumped at Wolffyn and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Wolffyn`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the transhuman wendigo`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
Wolffyn raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
It materialised out of the shade and formed into black blades of darkness. Without a sound, it skewered the transhuman wendigo through the stomach.
Leaping into the air, the transhuman wendigo stamped a foot against a wall, launching back at his enemy with a mid-air slashing blade assault.
Wolffyn`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the transhuman wendigo`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
Wolffyn swiped out with a flurry of quick attacks.
Wolffyn stumbled forward, finding nothing but air.
Wolffyn leapt at the transhuman wendigo, yelling as she entered into a flying kick.
The transhuman wendigo`s skull cracked under the force of Wolffyn`s assault!
the transhuman wendigo cast Rigormortis.
Twitching, Wolffyn seized up and slowed down for a moment.
The transhuman wendigo let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at his opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Wolffyn`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the transhuman wendigo`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
Wolffyn was defeated! Sensing she is outmatched, she slipped away from the battle.

& I never realized that those Wendigo had guns... 8-X lol

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 11:02
by Mooncalf
Dekker wrote:I've noticed that since the Team Battle update that it seems the NPC battles have seemed to shift in power? I've heard that quite a few others aren't winning as many times as they had previous to it, as well.
There's two possibilities here:

a. That I fixed something while I was adding team battles, and enemies are harder because of that (I did find something that wasn't quite right).
b. That I broke something while I was adding team battles. If this is the case, we need to figure out what. What's different in the fights?

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 12:15
by Every
It's not switching after every few hits, I've noticed. And it seems to be focusing on one person, then another, and then another which kind of defeats the purpose of a team battle, I think?

Like with our round of three: It would take out Jayden, Every and Amalea without the other two being able to defend the first, or even the first defending himself?

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 12:32
by Mooncalf
Every wrote:It's not switching after every few hits, I've noticed. And it seems to be focusing on one person, then another, and then another which kind of defeats the purpose of a team battle, I think?

Like with our round of three: It would take out Jayden, Every and Amalea without the other two being able to defend the first, or even the first defending himself?
I was more curious about how it's screwed up solo 1 VS 1 fights for now, as it seems some are complaining that they lose far far more often now. If we fix that, then it might also fix team battles anyway.

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 13:44
by Amalea
With Powers:

WIN
Amalea VS Hildr
Amalea raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
It materialised out of the shade and formed into black blades of darkness. Without a sound, it skewered the hildr through the stomach.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
The blade grazed Amalea`s skin, skimming her but causing no lasting damage.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
With bent, guarded arms, the hildr blocked the assault and stepped back.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
But Amalea resisted the power.
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
But the spirit ignored orders from its summoner and faded into the wind, cackling.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power failed!
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
But the attack was short, and merely scratched the target.
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
The hildr completely missed her target and stumbled to the side.
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Amalea stepped back as the blade cut through the air in front of her face.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The weak blows glanced harmlessly off the hildr`s body.
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea kept distance as the blows came, narrowly avoiding each attack.
The hildr`s movements consisted of quick, precise slashes as she attempted to slow Amalea down.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Amalea stepped back as the blade cut through the air in front of her face.
As Amalea came into reach, the hildr thrust out, aiming to skewer her enemy.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
Amalea lashed out, intending to cripple her target.
Amalea missed.
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
the hildr`s blade cut deep into Amalea`s stomach!
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s blood spilled everywhere as the hildr`s blade cut deep into her arm!
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
the hildr`s blade cut deep into Amalea`s stomach!
Amalea attempted to put some distance between them, backtracking quickly.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
The hildr`s forearm snapped under the pressure!
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
Amalea stepped back as the blade cut through the air in front of her face.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
Amalea snapped the hildr`s neck!
The hildr is dead.
Amalea gains 125 exp!
Amalea also took an item (Valkyrie Dust)
DEFEAT
Amalea VS Hildr
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
The blade grazed Amalea`s skin, skimming her but causing no lasting damage.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
But Amalea resisted the power.
Amalea raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
It materialised out of the shade and formed into black blades of darkness. Without a sound, it skewered the hildr through the stomach.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
Debug: switch 2
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
Amalea raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
the hildr sensed movement at the very last second and ducked asside as the physical shadows swiped at her.
Amalea summoned a Sidhe!
Wailing, it flew at its target, pulverizing the hildr into the floor.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power failed!
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
The hildr stepped inside of Amalea`s guard and hoisted herself into a somersault over Amalea`s head, lashing out with her blade as she landed behind her opponent.
Amalea stepped back as the blade cut through the air in front of her face.
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
Debug: switch 2
Amalea raised her arms and the shadows came to life!
the hildr sensed movement at the very last second and ducked asside as the physical shadows swiped at her.
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
But the attack was ponderous and easily avoidable.
The hildr`s blade lashed out just as Amalea came at her, cutting downwards with a brutal overhead hack.
Amalea kept distance as the blows came, narrowly avoiding each attack.
Debug: switch 2
Leaping forward, Amalea`s leg came up, arching around in a spinning roundhouse kick.
Amalea stumbled forward, finding nothing but air.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
The hildr lashed out, intending to cripple her target.
Amalea`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the hildr`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
The hildr let out a battle cry and stormed heedless at her opponent with berserker-like wild swings.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Leaping into the air, the hildr stamped a foot against a tree, launching back at her enemy with a mid-air slashing blade assault.
Amalea`s leg was sliced open!
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s blood spilled everywhere as the hildr`s blade cut deep into her arm!
The hildr slashed at Amalea`s limbs, attempting to cripple her.
Amalea`s blood spilled everywhere as the hildr`s blade cut deep into her arm!
Leaping forward, Amalea`s leg came up, arching around in a spinning roundhouse kick.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the hildr`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
Amalea was defeated! Sensing she is outmatched, she slipped away from the battle.


But usually she can defeat them without using powers since I forget to reset them after she feeds (blood thief). So a no power example:

DEFEAT
Amalea VS Hildr
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea stepped back as the blade cut through the air in front of her face.
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s stamina was damaged.
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s stamina was damaged.
Debug: switch 2
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s blood spilled everywhere as the hildr`s blade cut deep into her arm!
Debug: switch 2
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s stamina was damaged.
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
Amalea`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the hildr`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
With bent, guarded arms, the hildr blocked the assault and stepped back.
Amalea stepped in close, trying to find a way to cripple her enemy.
Amalea cracked several of the hildr`s ribs!
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
Amalea`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the hildr`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Sensing that the hildr`s concentration was waning, Amalea turned her defensive stance into attack, and lashed out with a series of punches and kicks.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Debug: switch 1
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
The illusion succeeded and Amalea screamed as the mirage damaged her mind.
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
Amalea stumbled forward, finding nothing but air.
Amalea stepped in and grabbed the hildr by the neck, ready to pulverize her enemy with her free hand.
Amalea smashed the hildr`s skull, which caved in around her forehead!
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power failed!
Snarling with rage, the hildr pressed forward, pressuring her opponent with a series of brutal and reckless assaults.
Amalea`s throat opened up and gushed blood as the hildr`s blade sliced cleanly through it!
Amalea was defeated! Sensing she is outmatched, she slipped away from the battle.
WIN
Amalea VS Hildr
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
The hildr jumped at Amalea and lashed out violently with a series of savage attacks.
The hildr missed.
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
With bent, guarded arms, the hildr blocked the assault and stepped back.
Amalea jumped at the hildr, roaring with rage.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Getting in close, Amalea pulled back her head and swung a savage headbutt at the hildr.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
With a sudden and surprising blur of motion, Amalea let loose with a series of punches.
The weak blows glanced harmlessly off the hildr`s body.
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power succeeded! Amalea`s willpower was damaged.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
But Amalea resisted the power.
Amalea swiped out with a flurry of quick attacks.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Amalea attempted to buy some time by knocking the hildr down with a sudden tackle.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
Sensing that the hildr`s concentration was waning, Amalea turned her defensive stance into attack, and lashed out with a series of punches and kicks.
The hildr blocked the attack with open palms. The combatants entered into a grapple for a moment before Amalea pulled free.
the hildr used Harmful Illusion.
But Amalea resisted the power.
The hildr pulled back her arm and let loose a ferocious swing.
Amalea`s blood spilled everywhere as the hildr`s blade cut deep into her arm!
Sensing that the hildr`s concentration was waning, Amalea turned her defensive stance into attack, and lashed out with a series of punches and kicks.
The hildr`s forearm snapped under the pressure!
Sensing that the hildr`s concentration was waning, Amalea turned her defensive stance into attack, and lashed out with a series of punches and kicks.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Amalea leapt at the hildr, yelling as she entered into a flying kick.
The hildr`s forearm snapped under the pressure!
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power failed!
Sensing that the hildr`s concentration was waning, Amalea turned her defensive stance into attack, and lashed out with a series of punches and kicks.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
Amalea swiped out with a flurry of quick attacks.
The hildr`s skull cracked under the force of Amalea`s assault!
the hildr used Light of Valhalla.
The power failed!
Leaping into the air, the hildr stamped a foot against a tree, launching back at her enemy with a mid-air slashing blade assault.
Amalea kept distance as the blows came, narrowly avoiding each attack.
Ducking low, Amalea tackled the hildr, attempting to enter into a desperate grapple.
Amalea snapped the hildr`s neck!
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
Amalea lashed out, intending to cripple her target.
Amalea snapped the hildr`s neck!
the hildr used Viking Guardian.
The power failed!
Amalea stepped in close, trying to find a way to cripple her enemy.
Amalea snapped the hildr`s neck!
The hildr is dead.
Amalea gains 115 exp!
Amalea also took an item (Valkyrie Dust)
I went back through the logs and it looks like that the "Debug: Switch" message shows up in 99% of defeats and never in a win that I've seen. At least not with Hildrs which are the ones Amalea has issues with since the update. Some times I see 'Debug: Switch' in other battles she wins against other NPC, but never in a win against the Hildr.

I can certainly test this out with my others having issues if it'd help.

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 03:09
by Micah
Micah has just lost to 5 wights, right in a row. He can still handle the lich and loupgarou with no problem, but he's never had an issue with the wight until now >.<

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 09:50
by Mooncalf
Micah wrote:Micah has just lost to 5 wights, right in a row. He can still handle the lich and loupgarou with no problem, but he's never had an issue with the wight until now >.<
Yeah there's definitely something going on. Is this a 1 on 1 fight? Did the debug message show up a lot? Also, did you happen to notice if the wight was using guns?

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 10:39
by Mooncalf
I'm working on this now. Nearly got it fixed, I believe. It's a problem with the system not finding weapons for every team member (especially melee).

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 10:59
by Micah
Mooncalf wrote:
Micah wrote:Micah has just lost to 5 wights, right in a row. He can still handle the lich and loupgarou with no problem, but he's never had an issue with the wight until now >.<
Yeah there's definitely something going on. Is this a 1 on 1 fight? Did the debug message show up a lot? Also, did you happen to notice if the wight was using guns?
It was a one on one fight. I didn't notice if the debug message came up, but I can say that the wight didn't use guns, just blades.

Re: RE: Team Battles

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 11:01
by Mooncalf
I believe this is fixed now, both for 1 on 1s against NPCs and team fights against NPCs. The updates to the battle code had made it so that it was only able to find one weapon belonging to each player involved, which as you can imagine was affecting some people very much.

I've also turned off the switching for now, just in case that was contributing. The turns taken by team members seems a little more balanced as a result, but there's still always the random factor to account for. Either way, I believe this is all fixed now.